the-bats-boston
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Carling CupWhat are all of your predictions for the Carling Cup honours this year? Chelsea? Already are 2-1 up over Everton. Everton? An away goal could be vital. Spurs? Good first half against Arsenal. It's half time incase your wondering. Arsenal? They've done it before.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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im goin 4 arsenal
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the-bats-boston
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They got a 1-1 draw with THE MIGHTY SPURS! C'mon.. you Spurs!  Lol soz. Anyway, did Walcott punch it in the back of the net?
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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i didnt see it
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Paper doesn't say so.
Berbatov was class though.
PS If Reading Reserves can get a 2-2 draw against Spur's first team, surely so could Arsenal 
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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did they ?
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Yes... it was on Saturday. Reading reservves ainst Tottenham's first team, FA Cup. Replayat the Mad Stad soon, winner plays ManUre at OT.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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yup come on u Reds !
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the-bats-boston
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Important clash, that. And I think it hit his arm as he chipped Cerny. Even the commentators questioned it. Talking of Cerny, he should be a first team regular, he pulled off some brilliant saves last night.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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did he play really well then ?
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the-bats-boston
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Yup. Better than flappy Robbo.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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lol robo aint tht good he shoudlt b england's 1st team keeper james shud
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the-bats-boston
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He's doing what James did. Turn bad, maybe leave Spurs and suddenly become great again.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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yh he's probz having a bad spell he might be depressed lol
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Green's been great this year.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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yeh makes some great saves
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the-bats-boston
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| StevieCoppleisaGod wrote: | | Green's been great this year. |
You mean this season, or the last ten days? 
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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Lol more of the last one that the first
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the-bats-boston
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Well done, Green. That's what.. three? four games?
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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lol wow you can count
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the-bats-boston
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I can count to sixteen!
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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wow go you . i can count to 100 in german
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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He's saved four penalties- that's no mean feat.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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well kinda i think hes better than carson i think green is 6th choice for england
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Sixth choice?
James, Robinson, Carson, Kirkland AND Foster all ahead of him? You're joking.
Kirkland is never going to be an international keeper
Robinson's been awful all season.
Foster's been injured and isn't that good anyway.
Carson had a howler on his England debut!
(or are you including Cudicini and Almunia in there?)
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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for england ? doubt it lol . and im not joking hes seriosuly sixth choice
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the-bats-boston
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Steve has a point, SVN. And I know from being a Spurs fan that Robbo is pretty much out of the picture as far as number one, even number two keeper goes.
You never know, Cappello might find some young keeper from somewhere and train him up. Now that would be interesting.
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the-bats-boston
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| Sir Van Nistelrooy wrote: | | for england ? |
One word: sarcasm.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Joe Hart.
No, seriously, Almunia and Cudicini can actually play for England as they've lived here for a long time and they've never been capped for their own countries. Same with Kasper Schmichel.
Ok, James, Hart and Almunia have played as well as or better than Green this season. Almunia may not want to play for England, and Hart's pretty inexperinced.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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i think it was on match of the day they said about joe hart and they sed come back when hes 24 and hell be amazing
i think green personally is better than sixth choice but thats what they said would be sixth choice
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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| Sir Van Nistelrooy wrote: |
i think green personally is better than sixth choice but thats what they said would be sixth choice |
Um, no, you said he was sixth choice. Not "Match of the Day said he's sixth choice". Really what matters is what Capello thinks, and Cappello will bas his choice on this seasons form. Green's form>Robinson's, Carson's, Foster's and Kirkland's, and roughly equal to James'.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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robinsons and crason aint anything great for me its betweem green and james
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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You went back on yourself again...
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the-bats-boston
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I don't mean to sound rude - but I don't think SVN EVER has any idea what he's on about.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Are you by any chance a googlebot who enters random letters SVN?
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the-bats-boston
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Hahaha! 
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Damn Robbie Keane (ok it's the FA Cup but hey)
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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ggkjghimkstijhkjfgjiojs ?
that would be a google bot
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the-bats-boston
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There is only onneeee.. Robbie Keano!
Unlucky there, Stevie.
Spurs are off to Old Trafford, in what will be a VERY tough game. But hey, at least we can win the treble.. (Premiership, Uefa and Carling).
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Surely you have more chance of beating Man U than winning the Premiership?
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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Treble ? doubt it tottenham are out of the premiership race . i gotta top man utd after the newcastle performance on winning it
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the-bats-boston
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It's obvious that Spurs won't win the title, but they still CAN win it.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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You also CAN win the FA Cup.
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the-bats-boston
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But we don't HAVE to beat Man U to win the Prem. It would help, but we don't HAVE to.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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your all sounding very familiar , ah thats it like my history teacher , he always uses IF the world war didnt happen , and we didnt HAVE to invade so and so
so annoying 
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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You don't have to beat them, but you have to hope other teams beat them for you. United aren't in very good form, Everton et all could beat them easily ATM. I'm slightly dissapointed Reading couldn't get a draw, we certainly deserved it.
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the-bats-boston
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Well if teams like Reading did get draws with United - Ramos' job of taking the title would be that bit easier. As long as we keep getting 2-0 wins like yesterday, I think we can finish in the top half.
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the-bats-boston
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SPURS 5-1 ARSENAL (6-2)
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Well done!
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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yes well done because he played in the game and scored didnt he
it makes me laugh how people refer to chelsea as weve got man utd in 2 weeks or something like that as if their in the team lol
your friends do that ?
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the-bats-boston
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Yeah but I guess we are apart of the club (whatever team we support) because without us fans, they wouldn't have much money. And without us, they wouldn't have support week in and week out. So really we are apart of the team (obviously not the starting 11).
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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2 things. 1, it's !a part" of the team, wouldn't have pointed it out but you did it twice. Second, Chelsea would have a shed load of money without their fans.
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the-bats-boston
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Yes they would. But us fans make them even more money.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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id say that it only goes for league one and down about the fans thing but any above its basically the chairman that provides money
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the-bats-boston
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Well where do they make their money from? If they weren't selling tickets, merchandise and so on in which teams sell at Home Games, then all they're going to get money from is sponsers. They'll have to pay for maintenence, wages, travelling to Away games and so on. Fans = money.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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think bout the premiership teams they all realy on the chairman mostly to provide money ,not the fans . the fans help but not a great deal
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the-bats-boston
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They help a huge deal. Because if the Chairman provides all of the money, is he expected to keep magically bringing in money? He will run out eventually, and will rely on the fans to keep buying tickets. Because if on average a team's weekly income is higher than expenses, then they'll be making profit. In the short run, a billionaire chairman is fine. But without fans, in the long run the team will go bust.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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abrohamivic ,glazier , and probably many more have lots of other companies providing money so they dont need fans
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the-bats-boston
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Yeah that's just a few clubs, isn't it? So basically you're saying that we don't need fans because about five chairmans are billionaires? What about other Premiership teams like Everton? Spurs? Reading? And especially as you go further down the divisions - we need fans or we wouldn't be getting ANY income (except for sponsers).
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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as i sed in other posts championship and above will have toher income that you dont no about , and the bottom half of championship and lower into division 1 and the rest do rely on fans
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the-bats-boston
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EVERY TEAM rely on fans. Trust me.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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trust you ha you make me laugh
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the-bats-boston
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Anyone want to input here? The way the business works is that you pay for wages, maintanence etc. and the way you make money is through the fans and sponsers. Without fans, you wouldn't sell tickets, merchandise, food & drink - and so on.
It's an obvious fact that every true football fan should know.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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how do you no then and every team doesnt rely on fans
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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The only clubs in England who would be fine without any fans are Chelsea, Man City, and Villa. If Roman gave Chelsea all his money in his will they'd so self sustained. It's similar with City, but a lot of Shinawatra's cash is dodgy. I'm pretty sure Lerner is rich enough too. Oh, and QPR of course.
What you say about Glazer is rubbish though- he has NO money, he got a loan of over £500 million to buy Man U and United won't have a penny until he gets his 500 million out of them. He didn't use all of it to buy Man U however- he saved some for transfers and to pay back the first few months of repayments. Basically, if Man U go down, they're screwed.
I know more about Championship and League 1 football than you SVN, so don't say that they have "ways" of making money Freddie doesn't know about. Sponsorship, prize money and TV rights are the only ways I can think of that don't need fans. No company will sponsor a team with no fans. You need cash to get prize money, or else be very lucky, and TV rights only really apply in the premiership.
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the-bats-boston
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Exactly. Without fans, you're pretty much done for.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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unless your havant and waterlooville
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Havant and Waterlooville have fans. They also don't need to pay players as much (that's why they all had jobs)
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the-bats-boston
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Yeah but it still works the same.
They pay less wages.
They pay less stadium maintanence.
They earn less money from fans.
They earn less money from sponsers.
They barely ever get on TV. (with an exception)
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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| the-bats-boston wrote: | Yeah but it still works the same.
They barely ever get on TV. (with an exception) |
Like the "an"
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the-bats-boston
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What?
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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I like the way you said 2with an exception".
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the-bats-boston
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Why? Is that wrong?
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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No, it's just... I don't know!
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the-bats-boston
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Ok then.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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I've just realised... if Spurs beat Chelsea, Reading are in Europe!
England are top of the European Fair Play League. Therefore, we will get an extra UEFA cup spot if we stay top. That spot goes to the team who have the best fair play record in the league who haven't qualified for Europe. If Spurs win the League cup final, then they'll qualify for europe, and we'll be the highest placed FP team!
We could've been in Europe tis year, but the club said no... (Intertoto Cup)
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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im confused , any1 else ?
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the-bats-boston
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Yeah that makes sense Stevie. Tottenham are pretty much in Europe now. If we beat Chelsea, we're in. If we lose, then we're most probably in because Chelsea should get a Champo League place.
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Sir Van Nistelrooy
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yes im not the only who thinks knows tht makes no sense
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the-bats-boston
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SVN, I said it DOES make sense.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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| the-bats-boston wrote: | | Yeah that makes sense Stevie. Tottenham are pretty much in Europe now. If we beat Chelsea, we're in. If we lose, then we're most probably in because Chelsea should get a Champo League place. |
that rule only applies to the FA Cup, not the league cup unfortunately.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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Show me the way to Bayern Munich!
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the-bats-boston
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| StevieCoppleisaGod wrote: | | the-bats-boston wrote: | | Yeah that makes sense Stevie. Tottenham are pretty much in Europe now. If we beat Chelsea, we're in. If we lose, then we're most probably in because Chelsea should get a Champo League place. |
that rule only applies to the FA Cup, not the league cup unfortunately. |
WHO CARES?! WE WON!!
You all thought it would be Chelsea, Everton or Arsenal - but look who came out on top.
The Mighty Spurs. Glory, Glory, Tottenham Hotspur.
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StevieCoppellisaGod
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| the-bats-boston wrote: | | StevieCoppleisaGod wrote: | | the-bats-boston wrote: | | Yeah that makes sense Stevie. Tottenham are pretty much in Europe now. If we beat Chelsea, we're in. If we lose, then we're most probably in because Chelsea should get a Champo League place. |
that rule only applies to the FA Cup, not the league cup unfortunately. |
WHO CARES?! |
Wigan fans.
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